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the fiscal cliff is bearing down on us. they might settle 0* reece's pieces in the senate cafeteria for a special screening of lincoln. we will keep you posted on these developments. >> stop getting on youtube so you can see "gangnam style." and start using the precious social media skills to go out and sign people up on this baby. three people a week. let it grow. >> did you ever think this is what rome looked like in its final days? it is arguably the best fiscal video i have ever seen. the 81-year-old former debt commission co chair is shaking his money maker in hopes of getting young people engaged in the set issue. since it is teaming up with a group called the can kicks back. nick, were you the can? >> no, that was my colleague, ryan. he got the short stick on that one. >> i don't think so. i would have paid dearly for that spot. your point is what with this wake up young people to help with an issue. you guys really are going to get the bill. >> we know debt is not the sexiest issue for our generation, but it is the
the fiscal cliff is bearing down on us. they might settle 0* reece's pieces in the senate cafeteria for a special screening of lincoln. we will keep you posted on these developments. >> stop getting on youtube so you can see "gangnam style." and start using the precious social media skills to go out and sign people up on this baby. three people a week. let it grow. >> did you ever think this is what rome looked like in its final days? it is arguably the best fiscal video i...
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if we had a bipartisan, avoid the fiscal cliff and pay down the debt type of agreement it would be the best thing that could happen. the market would go up and we would be liking like our future was brighter than a lot of americans think it is today. >>neil: are you smoking anything at all? >>guest: drinking a little coffee. >>neil: quickly, senator, i know you have to go the congressional black caucus has come out with a statement saying, really, leave entitlements alone and focus on hiking taxes. that is the gist of the statement. what do you think of that? >>guest: it does not do it. hiring some people -- higher income people pay a disproportional share of the taxes. and they should. but if you bring the rates back to the rate before president bush it doesnot raise enough to get us to ball. you have to curb the increase in spending on the entitlement programs. if you don't do that, and they are the biggest driver of debt, so, the american people, i think, are ready for us to do something that looks according to conventional politics like a bad idea politically, but, actually, i thin
if we had a bipartisan, avoid the fiscal cliff and pay down the debt type of agreement it would be the best thing that could happen. the market would go up and we would be liking like our future was brighter than a lot of americans think it is today. >>neil: are you smoking anything at all? >>guest: drinking a little coffee. >>neil: quickly, senator, i know you have to go the congressional black caucus has come out with a statement saying, really, leave entitlements alone and...
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republican leaders say though are nowhere near on negotiations to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and protest in tahrir square as anger continues to grow against egyptian president mohammed morsi. we'll have a live report. >> new information on what may have caused a freight train carrying dangerous chemicals to derail in new jersey. >> heather: the clock is winding down to a potential economic disaster. there has been a lot of talk apparently nothing to show for it. democrats and republicans blaming each other nor the standoff with your tax bill riding on the out come. unless an agreement is reached by the end of the month, bush-era tax cuts will expire triggering a rise in taxes by an average of 5%. that means a middle-class family will pay $2,000 more in taxes and married couples would be hurt because of marriage penalty. it doesn't include the budget consequences. $55 billion would be cut from the pentagon and another $55 billion slashed from domestic programs. an estimated 2 million jobs could be lost pushing the economy back into a recession adding to the misery to those facing tough ti
republican leaders say though are nowhere near on negotiations to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and protest in tahrir square as anger continues to grow against egyptian president mohammed morsi. we'll have a live report. >> new information on what may have caused a freight train carrying dangerous chemicals to derail in new jersey. >> heather: the clock is winding down to a potential economic disaster. there has been a lot of talk apparently nothing to show for it. democrats and...
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consumer spending is down. >> i want to thank tiffany. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are down to president obama and john boehner. the uncertainty could take a toll. >> it hasn't affected hiring and layoff decisions yet but it will if we get into next year and haven't nailed this down. >> on monday the president travels to michigan to talked economy at a diesel plant. >> why is superstar sandy plain such a role in the jobs report? >> 24 states were affected one way or the other. businesses had to shut down. between the fiscal cliff and senate come when my has seen it up to 200,000 jobs added. instead we're looking at something more like 100,000 we think. not very good. >> tara mergener, thank you. you can apply for official federal assistance immediately. the deadline is this month for some workers. for more affirmation, call 288- 9050. >> 33 degrees at the airport. after some criticism, could apple be in sourcing its next big project? >> will you be putting fewer gifts under the christmas tree this year? >> a day that still lives in infamy. the anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor. >
consumer spending is down. >> i want to thank tiffany. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are down to president obama and john boehner. the uncertainty could take a toll. >> it hasn't affected hiring and layoff decisions yet but it will if we get into next year and haven't nailed this down. >> on monday the president travels to michigan to talked economy at a diesel plant. >> why is superstar sandy plain such a role in the jobs report? >> 24 states were...
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. >>> now to stories you can bank on this morning the fiscal cliff not the only thing americans are worried about. lauren simonetti breaks down the result of a new survey for us. >> happy friday. you have done some of your holiday shopping, maybe all of it. if your answer is on the credit card you are worried about paying off the bill. a quarter people asked say they will need more than 3 months to pay their holiday expense. that's up from 18 percent last year. credit card debt continues to be the top financial worry many folks are using credit cards less. 55 percent of respondents plan to spend less than $500 each year. >> i understand more and more service jobs are moving overseas. >> out sourcing has become a negative buzz word especially since the recession as more companies send jobs overseas to say money. >> the hackett group says 663,000 jobs innic t, hr and finance have been offshored over the past decade. by 2016175,000 will be brought as well. fist it was low level jobs leaving the u.s. where they could cut expenses 75 percent but now we are seeing high level jobs overseas as well
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potential impacts they face from the looming fiscal cliff. it's now just 25 days away. nbc's tracie potts joins us with those details from washington. >>> lynn, good morning. good morning, everyone. the president spent time with a family who answered a call from the white house. the question was what would you do if you had to pay another $2200 in taxes. that's what the white house says will be the average impact on middle class families if they don't work out avoiding this fiscal cliff. the president sat down with a couple, a teacher, a man who works at an auto dealership. they live with her family. the family says they're looking at a couple month's rent if they have to pay more taxes. the president reiterated he absolutely will not sign any deal that does not increase taxes on the wealthy in this country. he said the problem is solvable. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: now in a
potential impacts they face from the looming fiscal cliff. it's now just 25 days away. nbc's tracie potts joins us with those details from washington. >>> lynn, good morning. good morning, everyone. the president spent time with a family who answered a call from the white house. the question was what would you do if you had to pay another $2200 in taxes. that's what the white house says will be the average impact on middle class families if they don't work out avoiding this fiscal...
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fiscal cliff, beyond the fiscal cliff. let me get to this steve. this is about including the debt ceiling. and what the president said about that in this negotiation today. >> we are not going to play that game next year. >> if congress in any way suggests they will tie negotiation to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again, part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year. i will not play that game. because we have to break that habit before it starts. >> bret: what about that? >> well, the president had as many red lines for iran as for house republicans. i think what kirsten said is absolutely remarkable. it is about the scalp. it's about the president having made a campaign argument for the better part of 2012. so that he could run a class warfare campaign. now having to make good on that with the base of his party. the u.s. economy be damned. the republicans offered to give so much and offering precisely what erskine bowles laid out as a compromise position in
fiscal cliff, beyond the fiscal cliff. let me get to this steve. this is about including the debt ceiling. and what the president said about that in this negotiation today. >> we are not going to play that game next year. >> if congress in any way suggests they will tie negotiation to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again, part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year. i will not play that game....
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what you're talking about is where we solve this fiscal cliff by creating another fiscal cliff down the road is totally immature. it lacks political courage. we know what needs to be done, and let's get it done over the next three weeks. the options are not going to change. >> would you call on your party not to mount that sort of opposition to the president if he specifies how he's going to restructure medicare? >> i think that both -- look, i have laid out in great detail very painful cuts to medicare. i just did it in a 242-page bill that i have shared with the white house, shared with boehner, shared with mcconnell, in order to move us beyond this silly debate that's taking place. the fact is, claire knows this and i know this. there are serious reforms that have to take place in medicare for our country to become solvent. >> well, we have to be careful. and you're right about this, david. what is really irresponsible, that $716 billion, that was low-hanging fruit. that was fluff in the medicare system, savings that we had to recover. and by the way, it's the same savings that was i
what you're talking about is where we solve this fiscal cliff by creating another fiscal cliff down the road is totally immature. it lacks political courage. we know what needs to be done, and let's get it done over the next three weeks. the options are not going to change. >> would you call on your party not to mount that sort of opposition to the president if he specifies how he's going to restructure medicare? >> i think that both -- look, i have laid out in great detail very...
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>> i think this whole fiscal cliff language is designed to maximize a sense of fear that's nonsense. the very same people, the congress and president, who invented the fiscal cliff -- this is all an invention -- could break it down into 12 foothills. there are 15 foothills, or 20 foothills. they could tackle one problem at the time. i agree with what i understand senator jeff sessions has said, and i think he'll be on your show later, this ought to be out in the open. we're rushing toward a secret deal made in secret meetings where nobody will know what's going on, and then people will be told, boy, if you don't vote for this, we'll go over the cliff. well, i think there are a lot worse things than going over a man-made cliff that i think is entirely artificial. i think the reality is the president of the united states has not come forward with any serious spending cuts. what the democrats are proposing is to take the tax increase now and then sometime next year eventually possibly we might have some kind of entitlement reform. that's a bad deal for the american people. >> greta: i d
>> i think this whole fiscal cliff language is designed to maximize a sense of fear that's nonsense. the very same people, the congress and president, who invented the fiscal cliff -- this is all an invention -- could break it down into 12 foothills. there are 15 foothills, or 20 foothills. they could tackle one problem at the time. i agree with what i understand senator jeff sessions has said, and i think he'll be on your show later, this ought to be out in the open. we're rushing toward...
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kick the can down the road. coming up, trillion-dollar ticking time bomb in addition to one we're talking about that could undermine the american economy. what is it? don't tell you. we'll tell you -- don't move. we'll tell you. that is next on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: future of america. watch. >> who is your favorite founding father? >> abraham lincoln. >> he's not a founding father. first president. >> i want to get this down on a tape recorder because nobody will believe me. >> george washington. >> what is a founding father? >> hi. i'm earth. have we met? >> what is ben franklin famous for? >> 100th president. >> eric: genius. they're racking up the student loan debt at a record and dangerous pace. in fact, the student loan debt is sitting at trillion dollars. we talk about this all-air for long time. 93% of people student loan debt is held by the government. >> dana: president obama made it more so. he took out private lending last year. we have kids that want college experience. the big college experie
kick the can down the road. coming up, trillion-dollar ticking time bomb in addition to one we're talking about that could undermine the american economy. what is it? don't tell you. we'll tell you -- don't move. we'll tell you. that is next on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: future of america. watch. >> who is your favorite founding father? >> abraham lincoln. >> he's not a founding father. first president. >> i want to get this down on a tape recorder...
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cliff. if you believe that? >> it's hard to imagine that the president would want to send the economy into another recession. that would be a terrible start to his second term and it would cripple the rest of the spectrum. everything else that he would want to do. it would seem a bit suicidal to do that. that being said, there is a scenario where he thinks that he might be able to quickly turn around and get tax cuts back in place. it depends on how much you think going over the fiscal cliff will affect the economy. others say it will be devastating and others say it will be back. it depends on where you stand when you are making these sort of analyses. megyn: it feels like we are left with the economy -- with people's livelihoods and growth in the country and salaries and unemployment benefits. we are just left. both sides are accusing the other of being the untethered risk taker. last night speaker boehner made remarks demanding leadership on the president. here he is. >> this is not a gam
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. >> what if the fiscal cliff talks goes down what impact will that go on consumer spending. >> if our tax go up and our expenses go up, then we have less discretionary income and 70% of the u.s. economy is driven by the consumers, by us. so that is really important that we absolutely focus on economic growth and don't penalize the consumers going forward. >> so you're saying it would have an impact on your business? >> i think it absolutely would because if our discretionary income is going to be less and we're paying more tax we will have less discretionary income for things like everything. including aublings. >> so what kind of contingency plan is ford making in case we do go over the cliff? >> well, our plan has always been to match our production to the real demand. and we have a very flexible manufacturing system. so you know, if we didn't get this solved and we didn't have as many sales, we would lower our production to meet that real demand like we have in the past. >> looking to the new year, the business environment, consumer sentiment, how are things shaping up for ford? >>
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blamed. >> 53 percent would blame republicans if we go over the cliff. only 29 percent would blame the president. >> if you cannot get over you go over the fiscal cliff and taxes go up for everyone. >> if there is in deal do you blame the republicans for ruining christmas? >>governor huckabee: the grinch that stole christmas they are called republicans. the media will spend this as the republicans will not come to the table but the republicans came to the table. they brought out $800 billion of taxes. what did they get in nothing. they got balloon juice because the democrats said here is the deal. we will thing about some cuts. we are not sure when or how much or where but we will get back to you. you go lady and raise the taxes. people if the republican party can tut go for that although they will get blamed for the disaster and the train wreck this is coming. >>neil: i tell people to look at coverage and say, did you wonder why republicans are obstinate wanting to hike taxes more, but, democrats are not when they don't want to cut spending? i say you g
blamed. >> 53 percent would blame republicans if we go over the cliff. only 29 percent would blame the president. >> if you cannot get over you go over the fiscal cliff and taxes go up for everyone. >> if there is in deal do you blame the republicans for ruining christmas? >>governor huckabee: the grinch that stole christmas they are called republicans. the media will spend this as the republicans will not come to the table but the republicans came to the table. they...
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jenna: we've been talking about the fiscal cliff and the clock is ticking down until the deadline for that amid all the efforts to hammer out a deal on capitol hill. while some warn of the damagers going over a cliff the man known as one of the greatest 20th century advocates for a free market economy may have had a different take. his name was milton freidman, and his greatest concern was really just government, and too much of it. here he is in a clip from the 2006 documentary "1%." >> in the end we'd end up worse off. it would do harm not good. people don't pay those high taxes, they find ways of getting around it. you're never going to be able to stop them from finding ways to get around it. jenna: talking a little bit about taxes there. my next guest has written extensively about milton freidman. we wanted to ask him, what would milton do, one of the greatest economists. nobel peace prize winning economist. we have the author of the inch dense pensable milton freidman. what would he think about all of this. >> great to be with you. i'm sure if milton freidman were here today, he'
jenna: we've been talking about the fiscal cliff and the clock is ticking down until the deadline for that amid all the efforts to hammer out a deal on capitol hill. while some warn of the damagers going over a cliff the man known as one of the greatest 20th century advocates for a free market economy may have had a different take. his name was milton freidman, and his greatest concern was really just government, and too much of it. here he is in a clip from the 2006 documentary "1%."...
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. >>> we are counting down and we are now 24 days away from falling off that fiscal cliff. neither the republicans nor the democrats are backing down from their demands. neither side seems willing to take the first step toward real negotiations. >> even on tv they're saying publicly. the president says they are prepared to go over the cliff if the republicans don't agree to end the tax cuts for the healthiest americans. the republicans believe their counteroffer of closing loopholes and limiting deductions is the way to go. one family from falls church is one of many that will be hit very hard for the cuts are not extended. >> a couple thousands dollars means a couple months rent for this family. for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> at a senate hearing yesterday, there was a economist that backed the republicans' plan. he cannot imagine anyone looking at the president's proposal and arguing it wouldn't send the country into reces
. >>> we are counting down and we are now 24 days away from falling off that fiscal cliff. neither the republicans nor the democrats are backing down from their demands. neither side seems willing to take the first step toward real negotiations. >> even on tv they're saying publicly. the president says they are prepared to go over the cliff if the republicans don't agree to end the tax cuts for the healthiest americans. the republicans believe their counteroffer of closing...
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maybe it is time to take the medicine congressman and go over the fiscal cliff and fix the problem. >>guest: there is no fiscal cliff. there is a fiscal slope. the earth doesn't stop spinning, the sun will come up, the moon will come up and we will have to do things in john. taxes will go up and the democratic party and hopefully some responsible republicans will vote to make certain that we remove this tax cut that would take place. >>eric: no talk about responsible democrats to stop spending so were, or cut back the spending, not just cutting back the increase rate in spending but item spending cuts. >>guest: the rate of increase doesn't have anything to do with the spain people are suffering whether they are middle class or poor. we were talking about the so-called fiscal cliff, if that happens, automatically taxes are going to go up for everyone. maybe, then, someone would ask, who was it that said we shouldn't just pass the tax cuts to make certain that the working poor and the middle class get it, who stopped us and who pushed us over the cliff. it won't be the democratic mino
maybe it is time to take the medicine congressman and go over the fiscal cliff and fix the problem. >>guest: there is no fiscal cliff. there is a fiscal slope. the earth doesn't stop spinning, the sun will come up, the moon will come up and we will have to do things in john. taxes will go up and the democratic party and hopefully some responsible republicans will vote to make certain that we remove this tax cut that would take place. >>eric: no talk about responsible democrats to...
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cliff. the president is trying to hammer things down. there was a slight bump in the markets because a was a slight bit of optimistic. >> companies are still doing things trying to prevent a loss. >> gm is the one absolutely nothing. this tells you that we're not all the same page. if everyone is saying what is true that a deal should get done. he is one of the people that people do not know the wall street do know him. >> some companies are paying out dividends early in anticipation that a deal may not be done. >> the famous one as wal- mart but we did see that disney is starting to pour their dividends. this gives us extra for the shareholders. this would be a good tax refund. i the clock is ticking and we have 33 days until the clift. we love numbers. if we can do it countdown will do with the this is the latest. >> hopefully they can get a deal done. >> lindsay lohan was arrested a gang for fighting. here she is she was released from jail this morning. she has a black jacket covering her
cliff. the president is trying to hammer things down. there was a slight bump in the markets because a was a slight bit of optimistic. >> companies are still doing things trying to prevent a loss. >> gm is the one absolutely nothing. this tells you that we're not all the same page. if everyone is saying what is true that a deal should get done. he is one of the people that people do not know the wall street do know him. >> some companies are paying out dividends early in...
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republican leaders calling on obama to sit down for a face-to-face negotiation on the fiscal cliff. this is just weeks ago before the deadline. right now, as you know, there is still no deal. those sites are still hundreds of billions of dollars apart. mike emanuel has more. reporter: hello, jenna. speaker john boehner says the republicans made a good-faith effort to avert a fiscal crisis. they say essentially this is now time for the president to be getting involved to respond to the republican offering. he claims that the republican offer was balanced, and because republicans cannot just sit there and negotiate with themselves. here's more from the top republican leaders a short time ago. >> i will be here and i will be available at any moment. so, the president and get serious about solving this problem. reporter: they asked the president sit down so we can stop wasteful spending in washington. on the democratic side, there is emphasis that congress should pass the middle-class tax cuts for people earning up to $250,000 per year. to give those people economic certainty. here is m
republican leaders calling on obama to sit down for a face-to-face negotiation on the fiscal cliff. this is just weeks ago before the deadline. right now, as you know, there is still no deal. those sites are still hundreds of billions of dollars apart. mike emanuel has more. reporter: hello, jenna. speaker john boehner says the republicans made a good-faith effort to avert a fiscal crisis. they say essentially this is now time for the president to be getting involved to respond to the...
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cliff, they seem to be willing to go down that road of big government, big spending, no spending restraints, higher taxes. that is not what the republican party has ever been about. now enough republicans have gone down that road where we're in this mess now but what demint is saying look as conservatives we have to start talking about and fighting for first principles. that is the constitution, limited government, fiscal responsibility economic freedom. republican establishment is not clearly making that case. it is now up to conservatives to do that. demint will be leading charge. jon: he is the hero of the tea party which did so much damage to liberals in the 2010 election. >> done so much damage to themselves. harry reid would all agree would not be in the senate if not for the tea party nominating sharron angle, not not a strong candidate. delaware, todd aiken in missouri. tea party done a lot of damage to republican party. you would probably have senate republican leader mitch mcconnell if not for the tea party. to monica's point, jim demint will create problems from somebody like joh
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towards the fiscal cliff. once considered untouchable third rail, changes to social security and other so-called entitlements are now being seriously discussed. >> we really have not gun to talk about real entitlement reforms. the only way you have true avoidance where you have solution is to mix an appropriate amount of revenues with true entitlement reform. and until the debate moves to that point, there's no serious debate taking place. >> house republicans offered a framework that includes raising the medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 squeezing out savings from social security by changing the way inflation is calculated, and possible means testing that could disqualify wealthier, older americans from the medicare program. lawmakers insist any changes will be done gradually and will not impact current retirees, but that's not soothing the fears of seniors who say inflation adjustments will have an immediate impact. >> to tell somebody living on social security, and we have something in the order of one
towards the fiscal cliff. once considered untouchable third rail, changes to social security and other so-called entitlements are now being seriously discussed. >> we really have not gun to talk about real entitlement reforms. the only way you have true avoidance where you have solution is to mix an appropriate amount of revenues with true entitlement reform. and until the debate moves to that point, there's no serious debate taking place. >> house republicans offered a framework...
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cliff debate. they would bear the blame if we do go over the edge. the president sat down with bloomberg news yesterday to talk about this. he said he might be willing to budge on some things but tax rates on the wealthy must go up. republicans should agree to raise them he says now and trust them that spending cuts will go away. >> let's put a down payment on taxes let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. >> they have heard these problems before any deal must tackle entitlements such as medicare and social security to put them on a sustainable path. vice presidential candidate and budget chairman paul ryan says the overall thinking has to change. >> the problem they are the same. but the old ways won't do. we need new thinking and renewed efforts from all americans. look, it is true that president obama won reelection. i congratulate him on his victory. but on january 20th, he will face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. you might even say he will inherit these problems. >> this has
cliff debate. they would bear the blame if we do go over the edge. the president sat down with bloomberg news yesterday to talk about this. he said he might be willing to budge on some things but tax rates on the wealthy must go up. republicans should agree to raise them he says now and trust them that spending cuts will go away. >> let's put a down payment on taxes let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. >> they have heard these problems before any deal must tackle...
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. >>> also, the fiscal cliff. it's down to two people. everybody seems to agree, two people get in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. >>> plus, republicans say they would change after the lek and they are. guess what? they're changing the rules. some of them are proposing to republicans in pennsylvania and three other states obama won. they're trying to eliminate the winner take all system of awarding electoral votes. that way republicans could win electoral votes in states they lose. >>> new jersey governor chris christie finally meets his idol. the man he's seen in concert more than 100 times. the governor and the boss, bruce springsteen. they're friends now. this is "hardball," the place for politics. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those aff
. >>> also, the fiscal cliff. it's down to two people. everybody seems to agree, two people get in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. >>> plus, republicans say they would change after the lek and they are. guess what? they're changing the rules. some of them are...
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cliff before it goes too far down the road. do you think that is likely. >> i think the fiscal cliff issues are perhaps bigger than this one in the short term. in the long term because the implementation date is 2014 it will certainly be a factor to be considered. i do not see how you absorb these costs along with the expanded medicaid rolls that the act contemplates. bill: thank you for your time. nathan deal, republican out of georgia. appreciate you sharing your opinions with us. thank you, sir. arizona now number 17, martha. martha: those talks are actually going on right now on capitol hill trying to avert this fiscal cliff. lawmakers say that what they think needs to be done is a little bit of negotiating. >> frankly we need a plan from the president. republicans have put forward on multiple occasions a plan that would reform taxes, that would reform entitlements, that gets us where we need to go, we are still waiting for any ideas from the administration that would accomplish the same thing. martha: leadership from the p
cliff before it goes too far down the road. do you think that is likely. >> i think the fiscal cliff issues are perhaps bigger than this one in the short term. in the long term because the implementation date is 2014 it will certainly be a factor to be considered. i do not see how you absorb these costs along with the expanded medicaid rolls that the act contemplates. bill: thank you for your time. nathan deal, republican out of georgia. appreciate you sharing your opinions with us. thank...
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. >> susie: you don't feel the way that warren buffett does, who was saying that the fiscal cliff has nothing to do with his investment decisions. you're feeling much of of more of an impact on your day-to-day business? >> i'm looking more am i going to continue to grow outside of the u.s. or invest in my facilities in the u.s. in the main, that's still true, but you can't just act like everything is fine when it is not. and i don't know all of the details of his answer, but i can't imagine he said he is acting like nothing is going on out there. >> susie: so you talk about taxes, and taxes are at the center of all of these negotiations. are you open to new taxes? how would that impact your business? >> well, at the end of the day, we all recognize that we need entitlement reform in the country. that's actually the big nut. that's the thing that needs to happen. the only way you're going to get that, though, is by having some kind of tax increase.p4l& >> susie: well, i hope it all works out. thank you so much, david. we really appreciate your time. >> thank you, nice to be here. >> su
. >> susie: you don't feel the way that warren buffett does, who was saying that the fiscal cliff has nothing to do with his investment decisions. you're feeling much of of more of an impact on your day-to-day business? >> i'm looking more am i going to continue to grow outside of the u.s. or invest in my facilities in the u.s. in the main, that's still true, but you can't just act like everything is fine when it is not. and i don't know all of the details of his answer, but i can't...
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there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. >> we are not going to kick the can down the road. we're going to finalize this this year. this is no time for delay. the american people want us to avoid the fiscal cliff with a balanced approach. liz: he said, he said. good afternoon, everybody. i am liz claman, "countdown to the closing bell" starts right now. you heard it from the horses mouth. and it has gyrated the market. john boehner said no substantial progress on fiscal cliff debt deal while harry reid insists we democrats are on track and will finalize it this year. even chuck schumer weighed in saying progress is being made on the hill and the next is a taste oversensitive. take a look at the intraday, you can see how it was jerked around today. right around 11:30 a.m., speaker john maye -- john boehner spoke. the buyers poured in, the short time later chuck schumer came in. now we are trading near the highs of the day. the dow jones dust they stop 77 points, 45 to the upside. all 10 s. and p. sectors are jumping with technologies leading the way. research in motion a big
there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. >> we are not going to kick the can down the road. we're going to finalize this this year. this is no time for delay. the american people want us to avoid the fiscal cliff with a balanced approach. liz: he said, he said. good afternoon, everybody. i am liz claman, "countdown to the closing bell" starts right now. you heard it from the horses mouth. and it has gyrated the market. john boehner said no substantial progress on...
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remember, if we do go over the fiscal cliff that will take the whole market down, so you put this on a shopping list, because that could give you a terrific entry point. i think the housing cycle is so darn strong, it can trump the ills of the fiscal cliff, at least once it's sorted out. ultimately the cliff will be sorted out. of the three housing-related ipos, you need to be careful with zillow and trulia, the only one i will endorse is realogy, and only if it comes down to a level where it's cheap. how about michael in california, please? michael. >> caller: boo-yah to you, jim. with a solid dividend that pays monthly at almost a 16% yield, its current valuation a dollar beneath book value, isn't a.r.r. a great value? >> you know what? i have thought it was. this is another one of those real estate mortgage reits that i have somewhat been mystified about the price performance. someone asked about this on the street, and i said i think it should be doing better. i agree, i think it's an okay buy. john in oregon, please. >> caller: boo-yah, jimmy, how are you? >> boo-yah back at you
remember, if we do go over the fiscal cliff that will take the whole market down, so you put this on a shopping list, because that could give you a terrific entry point. i think the housing cycle is so darn strong, it can trump the ills of the fiscal cliff, at least once it's sorted out. ultimately the cliff will be sorted out. of the three housing-related ipos, you need to be careful with zillow and trulia, the only one i will endorse is realogy, and only if it comes down to a level where it's...
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. >>> i think we ought to recognize this entire fiscal cliff is an artificial invention of washington created by people in the congress and the presidency and it can be broken down by them into a series of steps that can be taken without having to be rushed into one gigantic last-minute, little understood with no hearings one vote up or down. i think it's a terrible way to govern the united states. >> only one month to go before we dive off the fiscal cliff, but as former speaker gingrich right? is there an, easy solution? let's ask john brahmnick and fox news contributor and former pollster for president carter. thanks for being with us this evening. what is this fiscal cliff, and what does it mean, real quickly. for my viewers out there, what does it mean to them? >> well, first the business community and regular people want to w know whether they're taxes are going to sa to go up s the board. this involves state taxes and personal income taxes. >> i'm a regular guy, i've got a couple of kids, i live in middle america. if we goi over the fiscal cliff, what happens to me? >> first of
. >>> i think we ought to recognize this entire fiscal cliff is an artificial invention of washington created by people in the congress and the presidency and it can be broken down by them into a series of steps that can be taken without having to be rushed into one gigantic last-minute, little understood with no hearings one vote up or down. i think it's a terrible way to govern the united states. >> only one month to go before we dive off the fiscal cliff, but as former speaker...
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we go over the so-called fiscal cliff. and massive government spending cuts. >> and some people fear going off of the cliff could cost thousands of jobs and push our fragile economy back in recession. it seems like we have been down this road before. that deal according to the president and congressional republicans is far from a sure thing. the president said it was a so-called balanced approach to solve this crisis and what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. >> it is unacceptable for republicans to hold middle class tax hostage because they refuse to let them go up on the wealthiest americans. >> people saying that the deal he offered doesn't look like a deal. steve is live in the washington bureau. is there any movement on either side. >> not much. a few republicans who are willing to talk about higher tax rev news but not higher tax rates. the president made a direct appeal to the public. the toy factory in pin pen. he urged congress to pass a bill and extend the era tax cuts fo
we go over the so-called fiscal cliff. and massive government spending cuts. >> and some people fear going off of the cliff could cost thousands of jobs and push our fragile economy back in recession. it seems like we have been down this road before. that deal according to the president and congressional republicans is far from a sure thing. the president said it was a so-called balanced approach to solve this crisis and what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the...
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mom and dad, to count down the days until the fiscal cliff until we fall off of it in 30-days. in legislative language they have two weeks to carve out a deal. republicans or democrats miles apart. >> two weeks because they take christmas off. congress does. >> starting the 149. -- 14th. >> they got canceled. >> congress never really shied away from vacation time. they get on planes and get out there. president obama is blaming the republicans for this stalled proposal right now. listen to the president. >> if congress does nothing eerie familiar -- every family will see income taxes go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle class family of four will see income taxes rise by $2,200. it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts in hostage because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> congressman ted o says he finds the president's suggestion to congress basically laughable, because the president, you will remember during the campaign the 800 billion number was thrown around for new taxes how much revenu
mom and dad, to count down the days until the fiscal cliff until we fall off of it in 30-days. in legislative language they have two weeks to carve out a deal. republicans or democrats miles apart. >> two weeks because they take christmas off. congress does. >> starting the 149. -- 14th. >> they got canceled. >> congress never really shied away from vacation time. they get on planes and get out there. president obama is blaming the republicans for this stalled proposal...
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fiscal cliff worries still weighing down the market. adam: deal or no deal, the federal government will still be flowing through trillions of dollars we do not have. it is all about spending. next. ♪ adam: today's jobs report beating estimates, 146,000 jobs created in november and the unemployment rate dropping to the lowest rate since december 2008 at 7.7%. nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. welcome back, nicole. what's going on? >> thanks, adam and melissa. we're looking at a market holding onto some gains so that is obviously a positive sign. december is traditionally the a great month on wall street. the best month since back to 1950, s&p 500 best performing month, up 1.7%. here is as we see the divergence here's what we're seeing lately as there is so much concern about the fiscal cliff. the nasdaq is down about half a percent. the dow down half a percent. s&p also gaining. dow jones industrials up 59 points. some names leading the you way include caterpillar and jpmorgan. pulling other the way way, mi
fiscal cliff worries still weighing down the market. adam: deal or no deal, the federal government will still be flowing through trillions of dollars we do not have. it is all about spending. next. ♪ adam: today's jobs report beating estimates, 146,000 jobs created in november and the unemployment rate dropping to the lowest rate since december 2008 at 7.7%. nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. welcome back, nicole. what's going on? >> thanks, adam and melissa....
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he will have an exclusive interview with house speaker john boehner on the fiscal cliff negotiations. chris will talk to tim geithner. a "fox news sunday" you do not want to miss. check your local listings. consumer spending was down .2 of a percentage point in october. the dow finished ahead. the nasdaq lost two. europe's economy remains in the tank. 17 euro zone countries have a combined unemployment rate of 11.7%. that is the highest since the introduction of the common currency in 1999. 18.7 million people are out of work for the euro zone. pain and greece have jobless rates of more than 25%. back at home, the question of who will be the nation's top diplomat in president obama's second term continues to intersect with complaints about how the administration handled the libya terror attack. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with the continuing saga of what susan rice knew and when she knew it. >> since it's classified briefing on capitol hill two weeks ago, lawmakers stressed that ambassador susan rice had asked for the unclassified intelligence on the benghazi a
he will have an exclusive interview with house speaker john boehner on the fiscal cliff negotiations. chris will talk to tim geithner. a "fox news sunday" you do not want to miss. check your local listings. consumer spending was down .2 of a percentage point in october. the dow finished ahead. the nasdaq lost two. europe's economy remains in the tank. 17 euro zone countries have a combined unemployment rate of 11.7%. that is the highest since the introduction of the common currency in...
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wall street got a boost from the fiscal cliff talks. dow added 106 points after being down triple digits earlier in the day. nasdaq gained 23 points. the u.s. economy is growing at a steady pace according to the latest report from the federal reserve. the so-called beige book survey shows a pickup in consumer spending and home sales in october and early november. economic growth improved in nine of the 12 federal reserve districts but superstorm sandy hampered growth in the northeast. could the dollar bill be going the way of the doo-doo. a congressional panel is once again calling for the u.s. to stop printing singles and switch entirely to dollar coins. the nonpartisan panel believes it could save taxpayers money. it's more expensive to produce coins but they last about six times longer than paper bills. and you'll need some extra coins to buy starbucks latest. the coffee king is selling a new brew that will set you back $7 for a grande cup. it's made from a rare been grown in costa rica. if you want to brew a cup at home, a bag of th
wall street got a boost from the fiscal cliff talks. dow added 106 points after being down triple digits earlier in the day. nasdaq gained 23 points. the u.s. economy is growing at a steady pace according to the latest report from the federal reserve. the so-called beige book survey shows a pickup in consumer spending and home sales in october and early november. economic growth improved in nine of the 12 federal reserve districts but superstorm sandy hampered growth in the northeast. could the...
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politicians are taking a cue from november's playbook to get their message out about the fiscal cliff. >>> and a highway tunnel comes crashing down while cars are inside, igniting a fire. several people may still be trapped. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no, not today. join me, aarp, and aarp foundation in the drive to end hunger by visiting drivetoendhunger.org. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. but when i was in an accident..
politicians are taking a cue from november's playbook to get their message out about the fiscal cliff. >>> and a highway tunnel comes crashing down while cars are inside, igniting a fire. several people may still be trapped. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no, not today....
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if it does come down a bit because of the fiscal cliff, that's small pockets. overall, in general in the country, we are seeing a firm price recovery. >> but the big issue there is, if we eliminate the mortgage tax deduction for people under $1 million, we could really get hurt. >> that's a great point. this is why everything is tied to this fiscal cliff. >> exactly. >> you take out the mortgage deduction, and the traction we saw on the housing market reverses course. >> totally. i don't see how we can give $8,000 credits one year and the next year we take away the mortgage tax detux. a little consistency would be nice. >> are high-end home prices, do you think, are they ever going to go back to where we were when we saw them at the peak? >> for the highest end of the market, yes. i think they'll go even above the peak. >> why do you believe that? >> because people looking at real estate really as an asset again. i think a lot of money is out of the markets and back in real estate. when you're getting 20% on your money, it's going to be in the markets. when you
if it does come down a bit because of the fiscal cliff, that's small pockets. overall, in general in the country, we are seeing a firm price recovery. >> but the big issue there is, if we eliminate the mortgage tax deduction for people under $1 million, we could really get hurt. >> that's a great point. this is why everything is tied to this fiscal cliff. >> exactly. >> you take out the mortgage deduction, and the traction we saw on the housing market reverses course....
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for an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins from us washington with those details. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. so, it may be no deal today, but perhaps moving forward on these spending cuts and tax increases that are looming at the end of the year. some very specific meetings with a handful of lawmakers who could have a huge impact on your paycheck come january 1st. . treasury secretary tim geithner and white house legislative chief rob neighbors bring the president's deficit-cutting plan to capitol hill today. >> i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know, does that approach include the government spending less money? >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats. executives from big companies heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a d
for an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins from us washington with those details. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. so, it may be no deal today, but perhaps moving forward on these spending cuts and tax increases that are looming at the end of the year. some very specific meetings with a handful of lawmakers who could have a huge impact on your paycheck come january 1st. . treasury secretary tim geithner and white house legislative chief rob...
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. >>> plus as the clock winds down to the looming fiscal cliff, folks, one top republican says his party does not need to put a plan on the table. is that right? oklahoma congressman tom colatosti with his take on this next. >> this is unsustainable. we have 10,000 baby boomers like me retiring every day. 70,000 this week. 3.5 million retirees this year alone signing up for social security and medicare. people living longer, accessing medicaid. it is not like there is any money in the social security trust fund or medicare trust fund. it has all been spent. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up som
. >>> plus as the clock winds down to the looming fiscal cliff, folks, one top republican says his party does not need to put a plan on the table. is that right? oklahoma congressman tom colatosti with his take on this next. >> this is unsustainable. we have 10,000 baby boomers like me retiring every day. 70,000 this week. 3.5 million retirees this year alone signing up for social security and medicare. people living longer, accessing medicaid. it is not like there is any money...
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i think though if the market saw there was at least a down payment on the fiscal cliff, something agreed to be picked up after the first of the year, i think equity prices would be eleased. if we see more polarization leading into the end of the year without any sign of anything getting done, i think that would weigh on equity prices. tracy: talk about what we should be doing because i think we're all kind of the notion this will not happen until december 31st, what could we do before that? should i move maybe my dividend paying stocks into my retirement account? >> you can do that under subject of limitations how much you can put into a retirement account in any given year and predicated whether you work for employer or are self-employed. that is one avenue, if you will of sheltering those growth stocks from taxation at some later point. it isn't going to do much to help you this year, in order to do that you would have to sell them and move the cash into the tax sheltered vehicle. but that said, i think it is prudent anytime to consider where you have sizable capital gains, taking some
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this stock will go down on a fiscal cliff situation. that might be the chance to buy the rest. "mad money" is back after the break. >>> every now and then a piece research comes along and blows your mind. forces you to reexamine assumptions you thought were etched in stone. that's how i feel about today's incredible goldman sachs upgrade of dell. not from hold to buy. but from sell to buy. initially i dismissed this piece, written by old hand bill shoep as sophistry. i was reacting to the headline report of the change of recommendation. what makes me so intrigued now? first there's nothing like being right and boy has he been right about this one. he took dell to a sell two years ago. stock dropped 31% versus a 14% gain in the s&p 500. if that doesn't grab your attention, i don't know what will. second he's not making outrageous claims with the upgrade, the stock was at $9 when he made the call and he's using a $13 target. shoep has been very much against investing in the deep-value hardware plays, and he's felt that forever. he's been all over the shift in mobility and cloud c
this stock will go down on a fiscal cliff situation. that might be the chance to buy the rest. "mad money" is back after the break. >>> every now and then a piece research comes along and blows your mind. forces you to reexamine assumptions you thought were etched in stone. that's how i feel about today's incredible goldman sachs upgrade of dell. not from hold to buy. but from sell to buy. initially i dismissed this piece, written by old hand bill shoep as sophistry. i was...